brad@brad
184 Posts
Quote from brad on May 11, 2022, 9:49 pm
Quote from Guest on May 11, 2022, 1:22 pm
We are looking at having an eISF in house but are struggling to get companies to tell me upfront what the pricing is before going through a huge demo and sales process, specifically with Complion. Curious what pricing people are people for various solutions, especially this one?
I used Complion a little years ago and it was fine. Can't remember pricing. I think Florence is also free to sites in addition to Veeva.
Either is probably fine unless you wanna go full CTMS.
Quote from Guest on May 11, 2022, 1:22 pm
We are looking at having an eISF in house but are struggling to get companies to tell me upfront what the pricing is before going through a huge demo and sales process, specifically with Complion. Curious what pricing people are people for various solutions, especially this one?
I used Complion a little years ago and it was fine. Can't remember pricing. I think Florence is also free to sites in addition to Veeva.
Either is probably fine unless you wanna go full CTMS.
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brad@brad
184 Posts
Quote from brad on May 13, 2022, 9:51 pm
Quote from Guest on May 12, 2022, 1:53 pm
I know CRIO and RealTime have eISF components to their full stack but feel they push you to need to use all of their services.
I have used CC eDocs in the past and am glad to be done with it. Their purchase by Advarra makes me nervous.
My feelings on Veeva and Florence Lite (their free eISF) is you get what you pay for.
I recently saw a newer company at a conference called Clinically (I think it may have been spelled differently) that I chatted with briefly who were pretty transparent in person but who knows what happens in demos/phone calls.
I've talked to the clinical.y (sp?) folks and they seem pretty legit.
I just don't know the utility of eISF if I have CTMS already.
Quote from Guest on May 12, 2022, 1:53 pm
I know CRIO and RealTime have eISF components to their full stack but feel they push you to need to use all of their services.
I have used CC eDocs in the past and am glad to be done with it. Their purchase by Advarra makes me nervous.
My feelings on Veeva and Florence Lite (their free eISF) is you get what you pay for.
I recently saw a newer company at a conference called Clinically (I think it may have been spelled differently) that I chatted with briefly who were pretty transparent in person but who knows what happens in demos/phone calls.
I've talked to the clinical.y (sp?) folks and they seem pretty legit.
I just don't know the utility of eISF if I have CTMS already.
Hightower Clinical / Note to File Podcast / Existential Dilettante / "Specialization is for insects"
brad@brad
184 Posts
Quote from brad on May 24, 2022, 2:28 pm
Quote from Guest on May 24, 2022, 1:31 pm
Just ran into and chatted with those clinical.ly (found the spelling) guys and I agree with Brad. They seem legit, and it was refreshing to hear they are building their platform with the help of site input. I asked one of them if he was better than complion and his response shocked me. He said he doesn’t know that he is but what he does know is that he is a better fit for the org’s he works with, and others maybe prefer other vendors. I have never heard a pitch like that usually people go on and on about how they’re better than company B. I may look into them further after thes next 3 site visits
That's good feedback. While I hate that there are often too many systems, I do think it's healthy to have some solid options/competition.
Do you guys think it would be helpful to compile a list of eISF products/resources and sticky in the forum?
Quote from Guest on May 24, 2022, 1:31 pm
Just ran into and chatted with those clinical.ly (found the spelling) guys and I agree with Brad. They seem legit, and it was refreshing to hear they are building their platform with the help of site input. I asked one of them if he was better than complion and his response shocked me. He said he doesn’t know that he is but what he does know is that he is a better fit for the org’s he works with, and others maybe prefer other vendors. I have never heard a pitch like that usually people go on and on about how they’re better than company B. I may look into them further after thes next 3 site visits
That's good feedback. While I hate that there are often too many systems, I do think it's healthy to have some solid options/competition.
Do you guys think it would be helpful to compile a list of eISF products/resources and sticky in the forum?
Hightower Clinical / Note to File Podcast / Existential Dilettante / "Specialization is for insects"
brad@brad
184 Posts
Quote from brad on May 25, 2022, 3:43 pm
Quote from Guest on May 25, 2022, 3:14 pm
That would be helpful with links perhaps for those looking for more information. Didnt you also create a site to post honest reviews of systems? I have looked at a bunch and would be happy to list pros and cons
I didn't create that site but will probably be doing some cross-promotion between us and them. I think that site is going to be great for shorter reviews and the community here might be good for more deep dive style reviews.
Quote from Guest on May 25, 2022, 3:14 pm
That would be helpful with links perhaps for those looking for more information. Didnt you also create a site to post honest reviews of systems? I have looked at a bunch and would be happy to list pros and cons
I didn't create that site but will probably be doing some cross-promotion between us and them. I think that site is going to be great for shorter reviews and the community here might be good for more deep dive style reviews.
Hightower Clinical / Note to File Podcast / Existential Dilettante / "Specialization is for insects"
